Growing up, I was a pretty bored kid. Certainly not all the time, but there wasn’t much I was enthusiastic about. Every day was a slog that started too early, dragged on too long, and would’ve probably been better spent doing just about anything else. School was the worst, and not because I was a bad student; in fact, it was awful because I was a good student. None of it was challenging or stimulating, and because of that, I was ironically able to relate to the kids on the complete other side of the spectrum who found it too challenging and frustrating.

A huge bonus, though, of being able to blaze through my studies was that meant I had so much more time to focus on everything else, like my relationships, sports, playing DDR, writing, learning basic programming languages, and shit that was infinitely more fun than the garbage that took my time from seven in the morning until two in the afternoon. All my free time also helped me shape the very personality you see here, which is centered around the nucleus of not walking on eggshells for random individual sensibilities, i.e. not giving a fuck.

You can thus imagine my surprise when the MGTOW, or Men Going Their Own Way, movement exploded onto the social scene. Apparently, doing shit you want to do and being comfortable in your own skin is now worthy of a terrible acronym; how novel! Rather, it would be novel if the movement was what I just said and not an excuse for sub-humans to exude abhorrent behavior under the guise of ‘being about yourself’ and ‘fighting against feminism’.

I don’t get what’s with this generation of people and their need to constantly find a flag to fly. It’s especially baffling when it comes to shit like Third-Wave Feminism and MGTOW/Red Pill, which are all movements about pushing for strong self-identification, and yet they feel the need to bond together like fucking amoeba, a creature which does so only because it can’t do anything otherwise. No joke, if you’re fighting for strong sense of self, why in the fuck do you need to apply a label to yourself? Do you not see how that completely defeats the idea of the strong individual? Idiots.

It should be obvious, but I’ll spell it out for anyone here on either side of the extreme camp (read: MGTOWs and Feminists): I don’t like either movement. Too many of the movement are degenerate, angry, undersexed ass-bags that are borderline illiterate and lash out at people who don’t pledge their allegiance. I don’t know how they plan on affecting the world when they can’t even be coherent, but hopefully they’ll just eat each other, metaphorically and literally as they’re filled with planetoid people who need to go for a walk.

Ah, sweeping generalizations. There’s no way this can go wrong.

I like how whomever posted this didn’t define the term ‘white knight’, as if we can read his mind. When I see or hear the term ‘white knight’, I not only think of medieval times, I think of beta males (and occasionally ladies) who feel the need to defend someone or something, usually a girl. I don’t think of someone like me, who thinks the movement is stupid and is full of man-children that have never been in a relationship at all, but since I disagree with the ‘philosophy’ of MGTOW, I guess I’m one of them ‘white knights’ this blowhard is going on about; god forbid the idea of dissent on a personal level exist or even be entertained.

You should open a dictionary.

You do realize that a ‘movement’ doesn’t have to be political in nature to be one, right? MGTOW is a movement by very definiton (see 2nd definition). Also, ‘new way of living life’? Mother fucker, forgoing romance, sex and everything that has to do with male-female interactions isn’t new. Buddhist and Taoist monks have been doing this shit for eons, the only difference is they are seeking enlightenment, whereas you are a seeking an out that you can then use as a scapegoat to ‘explain’ why nobody wants to blow you.

Sure it is.

This is exactly like when feminists say, ‘Feminism isn’t about hating men’. If you have to say ‘This movement isn’t about X’, then it is probably about X.

Also, where is the proof that it started with divorced men and then propagated as you’ve detailed? Surely for a philosophical movement that has many followers and people asking questions, there would some breadcrumbs to follow, no? Or perhaps you’re just guessing like a dipshit because you don’t know how it started and you’re so bought in that you have to entertain any ridiculous notion, as long as it makes sense to the movement?

Again, people were doing this ‘not dating’ thing long before you shit-heel millennials decided to give it a stupid nickname. The only difference is that these people made this decision of their own accord, which is self-empowerment, and not out of fear for things possibly going wrong and worst case scenarios happening, which is total cowardice.

Additionally, yes, it is because you cannot get a date. I’ve listened to MGTOW channels and seen actual MGTOWs in real life, and the vast majority have been ham-planets covered in Dorito dust that are upset that no girl wanted to touch their penis. It’s both disgusting and hilarious because it reminds me of how I’d probably be and have been the stereotypical MGTOW had this shit existed when I was younger, and despite that, I was smashing left and right, and consistently above my level. Get off the chair, go do some squats and develop a personality that isn’t about waifus, anime, Overwatch, or ‘how women fucking suck’. Nobody, not even thirsty gay men, want to deal with a headcase like that; I know because I live with one and he’s super fucking picky despite being a goddamned slob.

What?

The point of MGTOW is to walk away from society, societal standards and women, yes? If this is correct, then you would be actively secluding/excusing yourself from these things, which is the same goddamn thing a hermit would do. The only difference is you’re not going to live on a mountain somewhere in a tiny hut, you’re just going back to your room to futz about and abstain from social interactions & pressure. In fact, now that I’m sussing through this as I’m writing, you’re not just regular hermits, you’re social hermits as well since all this is about ignoring social standards. Holy shit, you people need to get a grip on reality and come out of this fantasy land you live in.

You sure about that?

If MGTOW are so ‘content’ with their lifestyle, why do they constantly complain about being attacked? Why do they feel the need to conglomerate and shit on everything they don’t like? Most importantly, why do so many of them feel the need to make YouTube channels and preach about being MGTOW? If these people were content, they would be doing things that are helpful to their lives, not frittering away time hoping to convert some more simps to the cause.

Also, a lot of MGTOWs can tell me they live ‘very peaceful, orderly lives’ (the fuck does that even mean?), but that doesn’t mean I’m going to believe them when I can find plenty of evidence to the contrary where they’re getting into heated debates, shouting matches and scream battles.

Wow, how sad.

Again, if insulting or shaming didn’t do jack shit, why on Earth do you guys need to come together and shit on everything in unison? A person who could take things in stride would not do this. This same person would also know that ‘peter pan syndrome’ has nothing to do with settling down and having a family, it has to do with refusing to ‘grow up’ and accept responsibilities like a mature person does, and this is exactly what MGTOW are doing. ‘But we’re pursuing our dreams and hobbies, Sahltines!’ No, you’re not. You’re on Reddit and YouTube, actively spreading misinformation, slander and thoughts that border on being conspiracy theories; stop lying.

Also, ‘manning up’ has to do with being man enough to accept responsibility, not ‘settle down and have a family’. The hyper-focus you dim-bulbs put on marriage is frankly unsettling and makes me glad people like you aren’t breeding.

Holy shit, who lets someone who can’t spell properly and use grammar correctly write a guideline?

How do you know the remaining portion of this nebulous group don’t care? Why wouldn’t you take part in at least listening to a debate between a MRA and a Feminist? Oh, is it because then you would gain more information on both subjects and the broader picture, thus allowing you to make a more nuanced judgement, which is something that flies in the face of MGTOW?

Goddamn, do I feel more stupid.

It’s funny how this guy has been going on about MGTOW, an incredibly small subset of the male population, and then sneaks in the ‘majority of men’ line towards the end so that people who aren’t paying attention will subconsciously think all men are MGTOW. For those that got hoodwinked, no, we are not all ‘MGTOW’. Some of us have game and are able to balance having female friends and girlfriends without catching feelings or being in a place where rape allegations will stick.

Oi, my brain.

MGTOW did not start in 2009, you muppet. MGTOW is a very recent reaction to the reach and power modern feminism has gained; I’d put it’s starting date in 2013 at the earliest. It is also not the ‘largest wing’ of the man-o-sphere. In fact, it’s arguably the smallest wing, but considering how many damn weasel-words and sweeping, generalized statements are a part of the movement, I can see why you’d think that. I also did that Google search, and the majority of results are to articles from more mainstream news websites, not home-grown places. I only found one blog that indicates it was around since 2009, but its archive list only goes back to 2011, and those early articles have more to do with pick-up artistry and becoming a healthier individual, not running and hiding like MGTOW advocates. I swear, this movement is only made up of mad sixteen year olds who are awkward, have greasy hair, and smell bad, which are all valid reasons why no girl would want to get with them, and all fixable problems. Malaise appears to be the order of the day, once again.

Ah, the ol’ warning threat. That’ll show ’em!

You know, if it were simply about how divorce courts only base their sentencing off of the horrific Duluth model, and how modern feminism is constantly blaming all of the worlds problems, big and small, on men, I could understand MGTOW. Having said that, why do these people think abdicating parts of life is how to fix the situation? Even if I don’t always agree with everyone who is in the Men’s Rights Advocacy group, I can completely co-sign on the fact they’re actively trying. Disappearing, in both a physical and metaphorical sense, doesn’t do anything except remove you from the gene pool, and if I’m honest, that makes me happy because enacting social suicide by your own hand and then being happy about it is pretty fucking stupid, and the future needs less stupid people.

Mate, are you addled?

First, how are you MGTOW yet you have a female friend? Isn’t the point to avoid women? Second, why do you keep constantly relating extremely broad things like the feeling of loneliness and responsibility to having a partner/raising a family? Frankly, this shit reeks of personal projection, and the fact that nobody seems to be even slightly aware of this tells me the movement is full of dudes that are young, easily impressionable, fairly stupid, lazy, and would probably be doormats if they were in a relationship.

Dumb teenagers confirmed.

These are in response to this. I find it funny that this is how MGTOW view all relationships, partly because I’ve never had a relationship with someone so high maintenance as depicted, and partly because half of the shit in the GIF is being over-acted to the point of being unbelievable. Also, the dude leaves his socks around the house everywhere, which is fucking nasty, and he watches Game of Thrones, which is a terrible show that nobody should ever watch lest they want to retain what intelligence they have left. Honestly, it’s really depressing that these young kids are so terrified and stupid that they think silly things like a girl asking a waiter about something on the menu is enough of a ‘travesty’ to swear off women forever.

Wow.

You know what this tells me? This tells me that the people who believe in MGTOW are social misfits who can’t communicate with others, including their own family, to the point that family eventually forgets about them. They could also have done something to warrant such isolation, and are now lashing out because they want some kind of out for their previously shitty behavior. That’s a bit of a stretch, but considering how vehemently upset these dudes tend to get over shit many don’t ever experience and over-generalize, I think it’s a fair take.

Oh god, my fucking head…

I don’t get it. I don’t get why these guys think they’re better than feminists when they use the same fucking tactics of shaming, generalizing, goal-post moving, and spreading the sand that’s clearly crusting all over their cock & balls from not being touched. ‘Chad’s? What in the fuck is a Chad? Is it the same kind of person that Shakesville would probably term as ‘dudebro’? What girl is a goddamn whisky connoisseur when the majority of women don’t like whiskey? Why is loving yoga, an activity that has created the best goddamn pants ever and led to a world of toned butts, a bad thing? What’s wrong with the Chicago Cubs? On what planet do people pose near private jets and not immediately get shit-canned by airport security? What the fuck is a Brad? Most importantly, why the fuck are you basing people off of a mobile application that was explicitly designed for people who wanted to hook up at the drop of the hat with someone? Seriously, are you fucking brain-dead?

That’s it, I can’t handle any more of this shit. I had a couple of things I was going to include here, but this is worse than the time I fell while mountain biking and ended up with a Grade 2 ankle sprain and had to fucking hop around with that goddamn boot like a spastic rabbit. To any and all MGTOW who find this place: go fuck yourselves. You people are sad excuses for human beings, and it isn’t because you aren’t chasing pussy. It’s because you don’t have the balls to not give up, nor do you have the balls to admit you’re giving the fuck up. Instead, you hide behind a shitty acronym that houses some of the worst human beings I’ve ever had the displeasure of meeting and use it as your scapegoat for why you’re still acting like an entitled man-child at the age of forty-two. Do us all a favor and don’t find someone else, and do me a favor and find your own identity & movement. I’ve been doing the ‘not dating’ thing for years now, well before your horse shit began to gather the little steam it has, as a means to better myself and choke-slam my demons before re-entering the dating pool, and the fact that I tangentially have to share oxygen with you mouth-breathing, neck-bearded loonies is beyond enraging.

Shut the fuck up, turn the fuck around, and go the fuck the other way until I can’t see your sorry ass anymore, preferably off a cliff.